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Thor Odinson, God of Thunder, King of Asgard ([personal profile] pirateangelbaby) wrote2020-06-01 07:48 pm
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Admitting You Have a Problem

He'd been doing so well before all this. Or at least he thought he had. He'd stopped stashing ale and mead in his living room by the barrel, spent less time drinking and more time going outside and actually trying to tackle the mountain of paperwork that's been building up in the administrative center, even if he hadn't gotten very far. Sure, he'd still drank, but more out of habit than the need to do something, anything with himself. He'd started to get his life back, little by little, struggling to find a new normal and establishing a new routine.

But then Loki left, and there's been no word since.

The children are a delight to have around, and there are times when he feels it's easier to rally himself for their sake, to make sure they're fed and bathed and cared for. As have the ravens, who are growing like mischievous little weeds, both reliant on him and yet also soothing him at times when he is feeling low, hopping into his lap and insisting on being stroked and pampered.

But he is making it up as he goes along. He doesn't know what he's doing, or how much longer he'll need to pretend that he does. And now that he's paying attention, he can tell that there is something still wrong with him, because he's going through his reserves much faster now than he was a few months ago. And he doesn't want to know what will happen if he runs out.

The children are safely under Solvi's watchful eye, under the pretense of helping her around the house while she cares for her baby. Huggan and Miskunn are napping atop a bookshelf, and Thor carefully closes the door behind him as quietly as he can when he leaves. If he's fortunate, maybe he'll be back before they awaken, and they won't scold him for venturing out without them.

By now, he knows his way to the Viper's Pit well. One of the only Nexus establishments to serve drinks strong enough for gods, it's been his primary companion on his descent into his illness, and the steps he's taken to struggle back up. Thor hopes that the other Loki hasn't noticed how many of those barrels have been being shipped to Asvera; he's tried to avoid being there at the same time as the young trickster. Not because he does not want to see him, but because he knows something is not right, and Loki is far too perceptive not to realize that Thor is trying to hide how little he knows what he's doing.

He shouldn't be there now, Thor hopes. He isn't usually, this time of day. The thunderer opens the door to the tavern, and heads inside to pick up the order he'd called ahead.
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[personal profile] rogueinladysclothing 2020-12-21 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
"Then don't do that," she counters, calmly. "I meant no offense with the suggestion." Loki didn't specify what alcohol it was and she was too worried to think about asking. Her focus was, and still is, on Thor himself. Everything else is secondary.

Her smile falters as he talks about his trouble sleeping. This is a pain she knows far too well. To know he's suffering from dreams, too, hurts a little more than she's ready for and she has to stop to collect herself for a moment before she can speak again.

"Dreams aren't the good things most people make them out to be," she says softly. She slowly draws her hand back to her chest, holding it there for a moment before she presses it onto the table next to her other. "When I closed my world off from the Nexus, I suffered from the most terrible, wonderful dreams. Dreams of my friends' successes, my family's health and prosperity, and wishes... I didn't know I had fulfilled. It hurt to see these things, to know they could be true and I would never see it for myself. That I chose to give up the chance to protect them when no one asked me to do so." It still hurts, but she needs to continue with her story if she's going to help Thor with it.

"I barely slept for weeks until someone gave me a tea that prevented me from dreaming." A soft sigh falls from her lips as her gaze drops to her hands. "I hated taking it. I felt weak for needing it even as I enjoyed the benefits of it. Every night I forgot to drink it or told myself I didn't need it, I'd suffer from the dreams and go right back to it and feel both relieved and frustrated the next day. But, eventually... I was able to use the energy and peace of mind from not dreaming to process what I'd done, to push through what was hurting me so I could move on. I took it less as time went on until, one night, I didn't need it anymore."

Slowly, she looks back up at her friend. "Maybe that's why you started the drink. I don't know and the actual reason for it doesn't matter. Your dependency on it is hurting you. We can find something else to get you through the dreams while you work on everything else, but the alcohol has to go if you want to move on from whatever drove you to it."
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[personal profile] rogueinladysclothing 2020-12-27 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
His question brings up so much self-doubt and shame over her own weakness that she has to look away from him again. The full truth - I haven't really moved on. - is more nuanced than she thinks is helpful here, so she has to think about how to answer. How does she explain the complex nature of coming to terms with something but not fully letting it go when she's never actually settled on answer for herself?

"Time. Feeling grief and pain for more days than I can count. Talking about it with others. Accepting that what I'd done was done and that I'd never allow anything to change it. Reminding myself... that I can have hope about those I left behind, that their lives are everything I was seeing in my dreams and more." She reaches up to pull her fingers through her hair pin to ground herself and exhales a shaky breath. Hearing the musical sound it produces helps soothe her anxiety, but it also reminds her of a moment that was more important than many others when she was still dealing with the worst of the pain.

"About a year and a half after I'd closed my world off, when I was still using the tea to sleep a few times a week, I faced the pain head on. To free myself of the physical burden, I followed the ritual of my family when someone dies. I walked to a nearby lake with each of their names in my hand, written on scraps of paper, and I burned them. I gave their physical presence in my life release to the sky and the water as ash, locked myself away for a week to write out all of the best memories I had of each of them, and allowed myself to dream again. The dreams were still so intense, so real that I almost didn't last the week, but every morning I woke and could compare them to what I'd written. I could know that what I'd seen was only what my heart wished for and not truth, and it let me, slowly, accept the still wonderfully terrible dreams as simply that."

Slowly, she pulls her fingers away from her hair pin to quiet the sounds it's been producing while she confessed her secrets. A few people know some of these details, but no one still in her life knows them all the way Thor does. Her lips press into a thin line as she exhales again, but she doesn't look up at him. This all still sits heavily on her and the next part of her story isn't likely to make him feel better about his own situation.

"All of it remains with me," she tells him, her voice softer now. "That pain is still there and I still cry at the loss I've inflicted on myself from time to time. The dreams come on occasion and sometimes I have to make the tea for a night so I can sleep and deal with everything with a clearer head. But I can do that because I've dealt with what's causing me to reach for it." She shakes her head a little and sighs. "Whatever is causing you to drink is what you need to deal with first. The reliance on alcohol is caused by whatever is truly hurting you. And to figure that out, you need to talk to those around you about what you're feeling. If you're not willing to do that, I don't know if you'll be able to move on."
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[personal profile] rogueinladysclothing 2020-12-27 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
She can feel it as he speaks, the pain that sits so deeply in the body it can be felt in the bones and blood. It makes her chest tighten, her heart race, her face pale. What Thor went through is far more traumatic, his loss more visceral than her own, but she understands the struggle of seeing death like that over and over. It brings up memories of the last time she watched someone slip away in front of her, but she forces the thoughts back and out of her mind with a small shake of her head and focusing on words to help Thor.

"What happened that day was terrible. I truly can't imagine seeing or living through something like that." How to phrase this next part without sounding like every person she hated listening to while she was working through things? "Seeing it again and feeling everything you did that day is normal, I think. I've been through similar. It's always going to hurt, but you can learn to live with it if you address why it still comes to mind as often as it does." She tilts her head ever so slightly, her expression somber. "I suspect you already know and aren't ready to face it, if you're bringing it up to me now."
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[personal profile] rogueinladysclothing 2020-12-27 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
"No? Then why do you cling to it as an excuse for everything?" It's more accusatory than she means to sound, but they're too close to him actually opening up for her to back down. "If you had nothing to hide, you would tell me the truth about this. You would've told Loki the truth, too."

She pauses to take a short, noisy breath and exhales it in a huff. Her frustration is more at herself than at him right now, but he's not going to know that. Without her anger in check, Thor will end up in a deeper hole than he started in. Taking this brief moment to collect herself makes it easier to continue, though her tone is still more clipped than she'd like it to be. After all the pushing she's done, it's difficult to see him hold himself back.

"Nothing will get better until you make the effort. I know this is difficult. I know how much it hurts and how much hate and shame you can feel for yourself. But I can't take the step for you. If you really want this, you need to try. If you want to move on, you have to admit what's holding you back."
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[personal profile] rogueinladysclothing 2020-12-28 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Dreams, it's like hearing her own anxieties, hurts, and fears thrown at her as he pulls the truth from deep within himself. It's difficult to keep her thoughts focused as she hears an echo of her voice in his.

This is the only way to protect them.
I can't change what I've done.
I have to do this. There's no one else.

There's no room to be anything but perfect.


How painfully familiar this all is, but at least Thor is admitting the heart of the problem.

"Hiding in the drink won't prevent future loss," she points out quietly. "It might dull the pain of future losses, but it will make it harder to stop them, too. If you're so far gone that you can't help yourself, you'll never be able to help anyone else." Harsh words, but they're a lesson Amelia learned through pain and struggle that she'd rather Thor not have to deal with. He's going to have enough to deal with for the foreseeable future. "If you lose yourself, nothing else will matter."
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[personal profile] rogueinladysclothing 2020-12-30 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
"Not sleeping will do that. It's worse when you do and the sleep is terrible." She remembers being that tired. Drinking so much coffee and tea that her head hurt for weeks after as she eased up on how much she allowed herself every day because she couldn't function without it. She doesn't envy Thor having to deal with that now.

"But you're not helpless. You can do plenty on your own. Without a drink in your hand today, you've managed to make yourself at least somewhat presentable and make us coffee. You've opened up, at least a little, and you haven't tried to throw me out of your home. Those are still victories, even if they feel small." Her lips twitch into the ghost of a smile. "All of the first steps will be small. You can't climb a mountain without taking thousands of steps to overcome it. I know it isn't much now, but I can tell you from experience that today, these first few moments of struggle against this, will be much more important than you want to believe now."
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[personal profile] rogueinladysclothing 2021-01-01 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Her heart breaks to see him like this, but her answer is decided before he can add a plea to it.

"No. You've been drinking on the road for a long time now. Even one more will keep you from letting it go completely, and we'll end up having this conversation again and again." Because she won't stop coming back and having it every day if that's what's necessary. "You need water, something to eat, things that will nourish your body rather than take from it. When was the last time you did either of those things?"
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[personal profile] rogueinladysclothing 2021-01-04 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
"I suspect it isn't. After drinking for so long, your body wants drink more than the things that will keep it going." That's what all the books from her research said, at least. If Thor hasn't felt the need or desire to eat for almost a full day, she suspects the books are right.

She sighs and motions to the plate of breads, cheeses, and dried fruits. "Everything here should be easy for your body to handle, and the ginger ale will settle your stomach if you're feeling ill. I have a little raw ginger for you to chew as well, if you'd prefer that." There's not any room for him to argue with her on this. He needs to take care of his body as he lets go of the alcohol or he won't be strong enough to deal with the withdrawal. Frowning softly, she adds, "Even if it's only a little now and more later, it will help. It's all right to take this slow and with small steps."
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[personal profile] rogueinladysclothing 2021-01-10 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
"Only a day. I spent most of the time since I texted you yesterday doing research and preparing." Sleep was a secondary thought to making sure she was ready for this conversation. Taking care of her friend far outweighs any personal discomfort she may be going through. She can always recuperate later.

Her face softens a bit as she adds, "I didn't realize you were struggling with so much until Loki told me. I knew something was amiss, but I never thought..." She sighs softly and shakes her head a little. "What you're going through is new to me, and I didn't know the signs to look for. I still don't know everything, but I read everything I could and will keep doing so as you work through this. I don't intend on going anywhere while you need help."
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[personal profile] rogueinladysclothing 2021-01-11 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
He has food in his hands, which is an improvement over a few minutes ago. Amelia exhales a silent sigh of relief and nods. "The offer remains if you should change your mind."

She lets silence settle between them for a time. It's strained and uncomfortable, but it's not Thor retreating into an alcoholic drink or him glaring at her for doing what needs to be done, so she doesn't mind. They've reached the end of what she knows to do - getting him to admit to the problem and take his first steps to normality without the drink - and a few minutes of silence to think is helpful. Her schedule for the next several days is clear, she has easy access to the library and individuals who will have more knowledge to help her help Thor, and things are still civil between them. All of these are important, and good, things to have on her side.

Dreams, she hopes she can properly do this. All she wants is to help her friend find his feet again.

Once a few minutes have passed, she takes hold of her ginger ale and takes a small sip. It's helpful for her stomach, too, at this point. "Is it helping?" she asks softly.
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[personal profile] rogueinladysclothing 2021-01-16 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
At this point, Amelia's not sure what to assume. She certainly isn't about to get him an ale (or allow him to get one for himself), but that doesn't leave them without options.

"A glass of water it is, then," she states matter-of-factly as she rises from the table. She doesn't leave any room for argument as she makes her way to the kitchen to retrieve Thor the mentioned water, though she takes care to keep her footsteps light as she makes her way past him. Headaches are common with hangovers and she has enough experience to know how much it hurts to deal with. A minute later, she returns and sets the glass down in her friend's vision before returning to her seat across the table from him.

"It might be difficult to get down, but it will help. With any headache you might have at the very least." Here she offers a knowing, sympathetic smile. "It will get better with time, too. You won't be suffering forever."

It feels important to say that, though Amelia's not quite certain why. Thor seems to be struggling with the idea that everything will require time and patience, and while that's something he'll have to grapple with eventually, it's her hope that knowing the worst parts can be overcome will help.
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[personal profile] rogueinladysclothing 2021-01-17 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Thor's never opened up to her like this, and it's a bit surprising that it's coming out after she's pushed on him so much. It's not an unwelcome surprise, though all Amelia can really do right now is appreciate the fact that he's sharing anything with her. How important these friends are - or were, perhaps? - to him is something she'll leave to him to reveal as he feels comfortable.

Her expression is warm, if still on the neutral side, as she listens. "A fitting way to celebrate a hard and well fought battle," she offers. "Time with friends over good food and drink is always a treat, too." A thing not properly appreciated until it's gone, of course, but that's something they both know without her calling it out. Her lips tug into a rueful smile. "The days after aren't always so kind if the celebrating is a little much, but I've found it's usually worth the struggle of finding my feet again."

There's so much she wants to ask right now. Biting her tongue and holding back her curious nature is difficult, but she doesn't want to hurt him any more than she already has today. One wrong question could send him back into a place where his problems with alcohol don't exist.

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